Wisconsin Football Roundtable: The State of Ohio and Other Miseries

So, did anyone have fun on Saturday?

Tyler– I had a lot of fun on Saturday until I turned on the game. I couldn’t see it live, so I had to record the game and watch it later. I was able to avoid spoilers, but boy, I wish I’d checked the score and moved on with my night like nothing happened. It would have been much more fun. However, thank the Lord for the fast forward button.

Ryan – No. Normally I would have turned it off, but I had to look.

Ok, but seriously, that was, quite frankly, a kick in the ass. What did you take from him? Is there ANY positive aspect at all?

Tyler – Meh, no. Braelon Allen had a good game, yes, but they still got totally emotional. There were no positive aspects and we should not continue to pretend otherwise.

Ryan – Did Braelon Allen have a good game?

Defensively, Wisconsin usually has some kind of recipe for OSU, but they were completely outclassed. How worrying is that?

Tyler – I would say that Wisconsin only had a prescription for the OLD OSU system. When Urban Meyer was the head coach, Ohio State stuck with its OLD and SEEN system, and eventually teams began to figure out how to stop. You knew there was going to be a lot of short passes and runs from QBs and eventually opponents, we’re ready for that. However, Ryan Day ADAPTED his offense to stay with the MODERN times and now has the deadliest offense in the game. Crazy how that works, huh? Now, part of that is the huge talent gap Ohio State has over just about everyone, but I still think that’s cause for concern. That said, if that offense is firing like that, no one is beating them, including Georgia.

ryan- I’ve long thought Ohio State is in a class of its own when it comes to college football. They displayed a graph during the game, showing the number of 4 and 5 star players on each team. Wisconsin had 20, which is a respectable number, but OSU had 66… ​​considering that and the fact that it was a night game at home for OSU, I’m not too worried.

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On a scale of 1 to 10, how pathetic was the 21st punt on fourth-and-short?

Tyler- 10/10 pathetic, but 0/10 for surprise. It’s been that way for a while. I can count on the fingers of one hand the number of times Paul Chryst has been really aggressive in those places. The game was over after Mertz’s pick, but that felt like a white flag waving. I was embarrassing. I’m not going to pretend to know what college kids are thinking right now, but to me, that would make me feel like my coach didn’t trust our abilities and we should pack him up. That has to be a demoralizing moment. .

Ryan – 100. I get that Paul doesn’t want to take a chance and put Wisconsin in a place where OSU has a shortstop, but come on man…a 75-yard field is a shortstop for OSU.

In 2017, the gap between Wisconsin and others felt a bit smaller, but now it feels wider than it has in a long time. What needs to change?

Tyler: I think a lot of things need to change. For one thing, I think the game of college football has outgrown the Wisconsin system in terms of X’s and O’s. Think about it, how many teams actually run that style of pro offense? And with success? Not many. Now, you don’t have to go full-stretch offense, but you do need to modernize the offense to something that works in today’s game. Bobby Engram was hired to do that. What new wrinkle did he put on it? The son of a bitch%*&^ Wildcat???? It is early, but the first results are disappointing. Sure, it worked against two massively inferior teams, but it didn’t work in the other two contests.

I also feel like the game has overtaken Wisconsin in the world off the field. When it comes to NIL and the transfer portal, Wisconsin was late to the party compared to other schools. They have put resources into NIL now, but it seems they are behind compared to other schools there as well.

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The same goes for recruiting. Sure, they’re fully staffed now, but wasn’t it fully staffed for how long? Almost an entire season? That’s crazy in today’s world of college football and it looks like we just passed it! Yeah, it’s harder to fill those gaps mid-season, but now you’re behind on another recruiting class. For a school that bills itself as the “best college town in the nation,” it should outperform 56th in the nation and nearly last in the Big Ten when it comes to recruiting.

Now sure, they can’t compete with the big boys of college football in some of these areas, but are they going to continue to compete with the middle boys in these areas? I mean, just look at the 247 draft ranks for 2023 and see the teams that are in front of them. You do not want? Okay, I’ll help you. Colorado and Georgia Tech are ahead of Wisconsin in those rankings. One is the worst team in the power five and another is having a meeting to determine if they should fire their coach now or later. That’s absurd.

Ryan – The chart I mentioned earlier showing all 66 OSU players rated 4 or 5 stars is one obvious reason why the gap is wider. Wisconsin would need to attract more top-tier talent, and while I think they can attract more, as they have in recent years, I don’t know if they can compete with the Ohio State and Alabama of the world, especially the NIL. .

How do you think this team will respond next week?

tyler- Wisconsin has come to play in recent years after a loss, so for sure, they’ll probably go out there and beat Illinois. I sure hope they do. A loss to Bert could cause a crisis.

ryan- We have seen this team respond after a loss in the past and I expect nothing less next weekend. They’ve got Bielema and Illinois coming to town, so I think they’re going to come out and put on a show.

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